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新编译的内核能启动了,但是还有好多问题

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 楼主| 发表于 2003-5-5 22:55:03 | 显示全部楼层
旧的initrd.xx.img开始一直没改,最近才改的,重新生成了一遍,结果还是老样子。
/boot/下面的module-info-2.4.20-8和System.map-2.4.20-8作什么用的?我想把它们删掉了,不用老内核了,就是怕删掉了,连新内核都启动不了了。哪里有有关这些文件的文档,我应该看一看,保险一点。
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9.  Kernel Files Information

  This section gives a "very brief" and "introduction" to some of the
  Linux Kernel System.  If you have time you can give one reading.

  9.1.  vmlinuz and vmlinux

  The vmlinuz is the Linux kernel executable. This is located at
  /boot/vmlinuz.  This can be a soft link to something like
  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-19.8.0

  The vmlinux is the uncompressed built kernel,  vmlinuz is the
  compressed one, that has been made bootable. (Note both names vmlinux
  and vmlinuz look same except for last letter z).  Generally, you don't
  need to worry about vmlinux, it is just an intermediate step.


  The kernel usually makes a bzImage, and stores it in arch/i386/boot,
  and it is up to the user to copy it to /boot and configure GRUB or
  LILO.
  9.2.  Bootloader Files
  ______________________________________________________________________
  ls -l /boot/*.b
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root         5824 Sep  5  2002 /boot/boot.b
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          612 Sep  5  2002 /boot/chain.b
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          640 Sep  5  2002 /boot/os2_d.b
  ______________________________________________________________________

  the .b files are "bootloader" files.  they are part of the dance
  required to get a kernel into memory to begin with.  You should NOT
  touch them.


  9.3.  Message File


  ______________________________________________________________________
  ls -l /boot/message*
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        23108 Sep  6  2002 /boot/message
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        21282 Sep  6  2002 /boot/message.ja
  ______________________________________________________________________


  The 'message' file contains the message your bootloader will display,
  prompting you to choose an OS.  So DO NOT touch it.



  9.4.  initrd.img

  See the Appendix A at ``Description of initrd.img file''.



  9.5.  bzImage

  The bzImage is the compressed kernel image created with command 'make
  bzImage' during kernel compile.



  9.6.  module-info

  This is created by utils/modlist.



  9.7.  config

  Everytime you compile and install the kernel image in /boot, you
  should also copy the corresponding config file to /boot area, for
  documentation and future reference. Do NOT touch or edit these files!!

  ______________________________________________________________________
  ls -l /boot/config-*
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        42111 Sep  4  2002 /boot/config-2.4.18-14
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        42328 Jan 26 01:29 /boot/config-2.4.18-19.8.0
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        51426 Jan 25 22:21 /boot/config-2.4.18-19.8.0BOOT
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        52328 Jan 28 03:22 /boot/config-2.4.18-19.8.0-26mar2003
  ______________________________________________________________________



  9.8.  System.map

  System.map is a "phone directory" list of function in a particular
  build  of a kernel.  It is typically a symlink to the System.map of
  the currently running kernel.  If you use the wrong (or no)
  System.map, debugging crashes is harder, but has no other effects.
  Without System.map, you may face minor annoyance messages.

  Do NOT touch the System.map files.

  ______________________________________________________________________
  ls -ld /boot/System.map*
  lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           30 Jan 26 19:26 /boot/System.map -> System.map-2.4.18-19.8.0custom
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       501166 Sep  4  2002 /boot/System.map-2.4.18-14
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       510786 Jan 26 01:29 /boot/System.map-2.4.18-19.8.0
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       331213 Jan 25 22:21 /boot/System.map-2.4.18-19.8.0BOOT
  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       503246 Jan 26 19:26 /boot/System.map-2.4.18-19.8.0custom
  ______________________________________________________________________



  How The Kernel Symbol Table Is Created ?  System.map is produced by
  'nm vmlinux' and irrelevant or uninteresting symbols are grepped out,
  When you compile the kernel, this file 'System.map' is created at
  /usr/src/linux/System.map.  Something like below:

  ______________________________________________________________________
  nm /boot/vmlinux-2.4.18-19.8.0 > System.map

  # Below is the line from /usr/src/linux/Makefile
  nm vmlinux | grep -v '\(compiled\)\|\(\.o$$\)\|\( [aUw] \)\|\(\.\.ng$$\)\|\(LASH[RL]DI\)' | sort > System.map
  cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-2.4.18-14   # For v2.4.18
  ______________________________________________________________________



  From  <http://www.dirac.org/linux/systemmap.html>



  9.8.1.  System.map

  There seems to be a dearth of information about the System.map file.
  It's really nothing mysterious, and in the scheme of things, it's
  really not that important. But a lack of documentation makes it shady.
  It's like an earlobe; we all have one, but nobody really knows why.
  This is a little web page I cooked up that explains the why.

  Note, I'm not out to be 100% correct. For instance, it's possible for
  a system to not have /proc filesystem support, but most systems do.
  I'm going to assume you "go with the flow" and have a fairly typical
  system.

  Some of the stuff on oopses comes from Alessandro Rubini's "Linux
  Device Drivers" which is where I learned most of what I know about
  kernel programming.


  9.8.2.  What Are Symbols?

  In the context of programming, a symbol is the building block of a
  program: it is a variable name or a function name. It should be of no
  surprise that the kernel has symbols, just like the programs you
  write. The difference is, of course, that the kernel is a very
  complicated piece of coding and has many, many global symbols.



  9.8.3.  What Is The Kernel Symbol Table?

  The kernel doesn't use symbol names. It's much happier knowing a
  variable or function name by the variable or function's address.
  Rather than using size_t BytesRead, the kernel prefers to refer to
  this variable as (for example) c0343f20.

  Humans, on the other hand, do not appreciate names like c0343f20. We
  prefer to use something like size_t BytesRead. Normally, this doesn't
  present much of a problem. The kernel is mainly written in C, so the
  compiler/linker allows us to use symbol names when we code and allows
  the kernel to use addresses when it runs. Everyone is happy.

  There are situations, however, where we need to know the address of a
  symbol (or the symbol for an address). This is done by a symbol table,
  and is very similar to how gdb can give you the function name from a
  address (or an address from a function name). A symbol table is a
  listing of all symbols along with their address. Here is an example of
  a symbol table:


  ______________________________________________________________________
     c03441a0 B dmi_broken
     c03441a4 B is_sony_vaio_laptop
     c03441c0 b dmi_ident
     c0344200 b pci_bios_present
     c0344204 b pirq_table
     c0344208 b pirq_router
     c034420c b pirq_router_dev
     c0344220 b ascii_buffer
     c0344224 b ascii_buf_bytes
  ______________________________________________________________________



  You can see that the variable named dmi_broken is at the kernel
  address c03441a0.


  9.8.4.  What Is The System.map File?

  There are 2 files that are used as a symbol table:

  1. /proc/ksyms

  2. System.map

  There. You now know what the System.map file is.

  Every time you compile a new kernel, the addresses of various symbol
  names are bound to change.

  /proc/ksyms is a "proc file" and is created on the fly when a kernel
  boots up.  Actually, it's not really a file; it's simply a
  representation of kernel data which is given the illusion of being a
  disk file. If you don't believe me, try finding the filesize of
  /proc/ksyms. Therefore, it will always be correct for the kernel that
  is currently running..

  However, System.map is an actual file on your filesystem. When you
  compile a new kernel, your old System.map has wrong symbol
  information. A new System.map is generated with each kernel compile
  and you need to replace the old copy with your new copy.



  9.8.5.  What Is An Oops?

  What is the most common bug in your homebrewed programs? The segfault.
  Good ol' signal 11.

  What is the most common bug in the Linux kernel? The segfault. Except
  here, the notion of a segfault is much more complicated and can be, as
  you can imagine, much more serious. When the kernel dereferences an
  invalid pointer, it's not called a segfault -- it's called an "oops".
  An oops indicates a kernel bug and should always be reported and
  fixed.

  Note that an oops is not the same thing as a segfault. Your program
  cannot recover from a segfault. The kernel doesn't necessarily have to
  be in an unstable state when an oops occurs. The Linux kernel is very
  robust; the oops may just kill the current process and leave the rest
  of the kernel in a good, solid state.

  An oops is not a kernel panic. In a panic, the kernel cannot continue;
  the system grinds to a halt and must be restarted. An oops may cause a
  panic if a vital part of the system is destroyed. An oops in a device
  driver, for example, will almost never cause a panic.

  When an oops occurs, the system will print out information that is
  relevent to debugging the problem, like the contents of all the CPU
  registers, and the location of page descriptor tables. In particular,
  the contents of the EIP (instruction pointer) is printed. Like this:

  ______________________________________________________________________
     EIP: 0010:[<00000000>]
     Call Trace: [<c010b860>]
  ______________________________________________________________________



  9.8.6.  What Does An Oops Have To Do With System.map?

  You can agree that the information given in EIP and Call Trace is not
  very informative. But more importantly, it's really not informative to
  a kernel developer either. Since a symbol doesn't have a fixed
  address, c010b860 can point anywhere.

  To help us use this cryptic oops output, Linux uses a daemon called
  klogd, the kernel logging daemon. klogd intercepts kernel oopses and
  logs them with syslogd, changing some of the useless information like
  c010b860 with information that humans can use. In other words, klogd
  is a kernel message logger which can perform name-address resolution.
  Once klogd tranforms the kernel message, it uses whatever logger is in
  place to log system wide messages, usually syslogd.

  To perform name-address resolution, klogd uses System.map. Now you
  know what an oops has to do with System.map.

  Fine print: There are actually two types of address resolution are
  performed by klogd.


  ·  Static translation, which uses the System.map file.

  ·  Dynamic translation which is used with loadable modules, doesn't
     use


  System.map and is therefore not relevant to this discussion, but I'll
  describe it briefly anyhow.

  Klogd Dynamic Translation

  Suppose you load a kernel module which generates an oops. An oops
  message is generated, and klogd intercepts it. It is found that the
  oops occured at d00cf810. Since this address belongs to a dynamically
  loaded module, it has no entry in the System.map file. klogd will
  search for it, find nothing, and conclude that a loadable module must
  have generated the oops. klogd then queries the kernel for symbols
  that were exported by loadable modules. Even if the module author
  didn't export his symbols, at the very least, klogd will know what
  module generated the oops, which is better than knowing nothing about
  the oops at all.

  There's other software that uses System.map, and I'll get into that
  shortly.


  9.8.7.  Where Should System.map Be Located?

  System.map should be located wherever the software that uses it looks
  for it.  That being said, let me talk about where klogd looks for it.
  Upon bootup, if klogd isn't given the location of System.map as an
  argument, it will look for System.map in 3 places, in the following
  order:

  1. /boot/System.map

  2. /System.map

  3. /usr/src/linux/System.map

  System.map also has versioning information, and klogd intelligently
  searches for the correct map file. For instance, suppose you're
  running kernel 2.4.18 and the associated map file is /boot/System.map.
  You now compile a new kernel 2.5.1 in the tree /usr/src/linux. During
  the compiling process, the file /usr/src/linux/System.map is created.
  When you boot your new kernel, klogd will first look at
  /boot/System.map, determine it's not the correct map file for the
  booting kernel, then look at /usr/src/linux/System.map, determine that
  it is the correct map file for the booting kernel and start reading
  the symbols.

  A few nota bene's:


  ·  Somewhere during the 2.5.x series, the Linux kernel started to
     untar into linux-version, rather than just linux (show of hands --
     how many people have been waiting for this to happen?). I don't
     know if klogd has been modified to search in /usr/src/linux-
     version/System.map yet. TODO: Look at the klogd srouce. If someone
     beats me to it, please email me and let me know if klogd has been
     modified to look in the new directory name for the linux source
     code.

  ·  The man page doesn't tell the whole the story. Look at this:


  ______________________________________________________________________
     # strace -f /sbin/klogd | grep 'System.map'
     31208 open("/boot/System.map-2.4.18", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 2
  ______________________________________________________________________


  Apparently, not only does klogd look for the correct version of the
  map in the 3 klogd search directories, but klogd also knows to look
  for the name "System.map" followed by "-kernelversion", like
  System.map-2.4.18. This is undocumented feature of klogd.

  A few drivers will need System.map to resolve symbols (since they're
  linked against the kernel headers instead of, say, glibc). They will
  not work correctly without the System.map created for the particular
  kernel you're currently running. This is NOT the same thing as a
  module not loading because of a kernel version mismatch. That has to
  do with the kernel version, not the kernel symbol table which changes
  between kernels of the same version!


  9.8.8.  What else uses the System.map

  Don't think that System.map is only useful for kernel oopses. Although
  the kernel itself doesn't really use System.map, other programs such
  as klogd, lsof,


  ______________________________________________________________________
     satan# strace lsof 2>&1 1> /dev/null | grep System
     readlink("/proc/22711/fd/4", "/boot/System.map-2.4.18", 4095) = 23
  ______________________________________________________________________



  and ps :


  ______________________________________________________________________
     satan# strace ps 2>&1 1> /dev/null | grep System
     open("/boot/System.map-2.4.18", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_NOCTTY) = 6
  ______________________________________________________________________



  and many other pieces of software like dosemu require a correct
  System.map.


  9.8.9.  What Happens If I Don't Have A Healthy System.map?

  Suppose you have multiple kernels on the same machine. You need a
  separate System.map files for each kernel! If boot a kernel that
  doesn't have a System.map file, you'll periodically see a message
  like: System.map does not match actual kernel Not a fatal error, but
  can be annoying to see everytime you do a ps ax. Some software, like
  dosemu, may not work correctly (although I don't know of anything off
  the top of my head). Lastly, your klogd or ksymoops output will not be
  reliable in case of a kernel oops.


  9.8.10.  How Do I Remedy The Above Situation?

  The solution is to keep all your System.map files in /boot and rename
  them with the kernel version. Suppose you have multiple kernels like:


  ·  /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14

  ·  /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13


  Then just rename your map files according to the kernel version and
  put them in /boot, like:

  ______________________________________________________________________
     /boot/System.map-2.2.14
     /boot/System.map-2.2.13
  ______________________________________________________________________



  Now what if you have two copies of the same kernel? Like:

  ·  /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14

  ·  /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14.nosound

  The best answer would be if all software looked for the following
  files:

  ______________________________________________________________________
     /boot/System.map-2.2.14
     /boot/System.map-2.2.14.nosound
  ______________________________________________________________________



  You can also use symlinks:

  ______________________________________________________________________
     System.map-2.2.14
     System.map-2.2.14.sound
     ln -s System.map-2.2.14.sound System.map     # Here System.map -> System.map-2.2.14.sound
  ______________________________________________________________________
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发表于 2003-5-5 23:03:19 | 显示全部楼层
c&p from howto.
in fact, after installing one linux, and know some commands. the best way to go further is to read how to.
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 楼主| 发表于 2003-5-6 17:17:10 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,看了这么一长段文字,最后发现这个System.map其实对一般用户而言没什么用处,不要也没什么关系。
我觉得更大的收获应该知道了可以在HOWTO里面找到不少信息。
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发表于 2003-5-6 22:14:49 | 显示全部楼层
nod, how to is an important source.
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发表于 2003-5-10 23:02:36 | 显示全部楼层
我把内核重新编译了一遍,但是发现很多硬件的设备的驱动都不能加载(网卡,声卡,显卡),为什么???
在哪可以设置,我已经把显卡和声卡的驱动重新装上了,而且也可以用了,就是网卡还不能用??怎么办
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发表于 2003-5-11 01:45:43 | 显示全部楼层
[quote:4b623547bb="linjiang_82"]我把内核重新编译了一遍,但是发现很多硬件的设备的驱动都不能加载(网卡,声卡,显卡),为什么???
在哪可以设置,我已经把显卡和声卡的驱动重新装上了,而且也可以用了,就是网卡还不能用??怎么办[/quote]
i answer this in another post, pls check it.
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发表于 2003-5-12 22:39:28 | 显示全部楼层
i've compile the kernel(2.4.20)and it can work,then i install the alsa,but when i modprobe
snd-via82xx,there is sth. wrong
[root@Lin root]# modprobe snd-via82xx
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol __get_free_pages_Rsmp_4784e424
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol pci_free_consistent_Rsmp_1bfc1908
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol pci_alloc_consistent_Rsmp_ca1c24c8
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol remove_proc_entry_Rsmp_a8e2782c
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol vmalloc_to_page_Rsmp_79d672d8
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol __vmalloc_Rsmp_79995c5b
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol create_proc_entry_Rsmp_cd184b28
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol sprintf_Rsmp_1d26aa98
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol printk_Rsmp_1b7d4074
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol kfree_Rsmp_037a0cba
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol free_pages_Rsmp_9941ccb8
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol vfree_Rsmp_2fd1d81c
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol kmalloc_Rsmp_93d4cfe6
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol mem_map_Rsmp_0633fcfb
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved symbol zone_table_Rsmp_dcac3d17
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o: insmod snd-via82xx failed
how can i solve???
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发表于 2003-5-12 22:45:20 | 显示全部楼层
another question
i select the native language cp936,gb2312,but when boot it can't load the modules,it seems say that can't find them.
why???
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发表于 2003-5-12 22:45:40 | 显示全部楼层
when u compile the alsa, do u link the /usr/src/linux-2.4.20 as /usr/src/linux?
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发表于 2003-5-12 22:50:33 | 显示全部楼层
o ,i 'll try,thx
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发表于 2003-5-12 22:54:20 | 显示全部楼层
after i linked the linux,it is the same,whether i didn't select some modules???
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发表于 2003-5-12 22:56:19 | 显示全部楼层
[quote:6a52b59417="linjiang_82"]another question
i select the native language cp936,gb2312,but when boot it can't load the modules,it seems say that can't find them.
why???[/quote]


check if u have nls_cp936.o nls_gb2312.o
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发表于 2003-5-12 23:00:23 | 显示全部楼层
where can i check whether i have??and if i don't have ,what should i do???
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发表于 2003-5-12 23:03:58 | 显示全部楼层
if u compile 2.4.20. then u should go /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/... to find them.
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